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Why is the server still 1.8?

Discussion in 'Server Discussion' started by PieCreeper, Jun 13, 2019.

  1. Mineplex lets you join with versions 1.8 to 1.14. However, because it allows you to join with 1.8, a very old version, you cannot use anything added in 1.9+. In the game, Master Builders, players cannot place any of the newer blocks because of Mineplex using 1.8. I am confused on why Mineplex is using a version from 5 years ago. I believe it is time to update.
    Posted Jun 13, 2019
  2. Believe it or not, a good chunk of the player count still uses 1.8 as it's the preferred version before the combat changes.

    So it's not because they don't want to, it's cause they can't. It would also require a pretty big revamp of some of the plugins as they're dependent on 1.8.
    Posted Jun 13, 2019
  3. Unfortunately, because of the infamous pvp updates related to versions 1.9+, Mineplex cannot update yet. The majority of the community prefers original pvp mechanics and other small details in 1.8. I'm sure everyone would love to fully update to a newer version as it would allow for new game mechanics, features, content, etc. but we can't until there's a stable minecraft version with a pvp style that all can enjoy.
    Posted Jun 13, 2019
    neropatti likes this.
  4. Hey there!
    As ToonBasic stated, many players tend to enjoy using 1.8. I personally find 1.8 to one of the most enjoyable versions there were but recently I've moved onto using 1.12. Many players still find the combat efficiency in 1.8 to be much more better and simpler and I insntantly noticed that shift in player combat. Minecraft servers are known to run pretty much 1.8+ since not only does it target player base but it also targets many players looking for an opportunity to use their mods which look better or act better. Or simply because their PC runs better with 1.8. There are a lot of reasons people stick to 1.8 and I think it's good that Mineplex does keep an open mind for people who aren't as interested in updating.
    Posted Jun 13, 2019
  5. To just add to the broken record feel of everything we're saying, majority of players play 1.8, Mineplex will likely never update if pre 1.9 pvp is never brought back!
    Posted Jun 13, 2019
  6. Hey!

    Believe it or not, half of the Minecraft community is still using 1.8. This is because of the change to the pvp. Players have often gotten used to the 1.8 style and is unlikely to change. I appreciate your suggestion though!

    Have a good rest of your day/night!
    Posted Jun 13, 2019
  7. I personally disagree considering the only version I use is 1.8. Although for the people who use other versions of Minecraft I do see where you’re coming from. If you would like to see it I recommend making a poll and posting it trying to get your idea!
    Posted Jun 14, 2019
  8. The choice to stay on 1.8 is merely a development decision and does not have to do with combat. Many/All PvP changes in 1.9+ can be removed through plugins. As ToonBasic mentioned, updating the server would mean a lot of changes to the code base of Mineplex, which is unnecessary if everything is working fine now.
    Posted Jun 14, 2019
    Frqstbite likes this.
  9. Majority of people (as far as I know) play 1.8.9 because of the PVP, as in 1.9 the PVP has that cooldown in it. All servers across Minecraft are 1.8-1.14.
    Posted Jun 14, 2019
  10. Heya!

    As said by others, many players still prefer 1.8 PvP mechanics, myself included. I understand how certain things can be irritating such as not being able to use newer blocks in Master Builders as well as other things, however, I do not believe the server will be moving to 1.9+ any time soon due to the high amounts of players that still use 1.8.

    Have a great day!
    Posted Jun 14, 2019
  11. Don't quote me on this, but I am pretty sure this was answered two years ago at an Owner/Admin QnA on the Mineplex Twitch.

    Of course, moving to newer versions of the game would unlock so many features which would help the server stand out among the competition. There would be new mechanics like the levitation potion or the elytra and of course, all the new blocks come with that.

    The issue is with the number of people using those versions to see if it would be worth dropping 1.8 support. Back then (this is the don't quote me part) I am pretty certain that they said around 65% of players were using a client that was 1.9 or above, even though this is the majority it is still too low of a percentage and they want to wait until that number is pretty much 100% for obvious reasons.

    In today's age, that number could have changed, with the release of 1.12 Labymod the number could have shifted more in the newer versions favor but with the Badlion client, that number could have shaken up again.

    To sum up the situation, swapping to the higher versions of Minecraft is not out of the question or at least it wasn't a few years ago. It just depends on the players.
    Posted Jun 15, 2019
    corns likes this.
  12. Like many others have said it's simply because most people on pvp servers don't like the new combat, and even with plugins that make it so we can use 1.8 combat in 1.9+ it still doesn't 'feel' right.

    However Mojang has confirmed that they're going to be revisiting combat mechanics again, likely in 1.15. We just have to hope that they don't screw it up again like they did with 1.9. That way servers will be able to finally update and have access to all the new blocks and features.
    Posted Jun 16, 2019
    corns likes this.
  13. Hello!

    I'd definitely agree that Mineplex should switch on high version but this decision can cause a lot of complications by players due to PVP issues and information mods. A lot of people are used to 1.8 PVP and don't want to learn new 1.9 mechanics.

    However, if we will remember that Mineplex uses custom PVP system which doesn't work like vanilla mechanics and most likely we won't notice all these combat issues after switching to high version because the vanilla system will be replaced with Mineplex's. I'm not really quite sure in that but I assume it is will work like that. We also might make as many tweaks as possible to make it work like 1.8 is used to be.

    If an issue with PVP will be resolved just I like said above, we may switch higher version (most likely 1.12 as it's the most stable) but will keep the ability to join from lower version starts with 1.8. So, the server core will be on 1.12 and new features of this version would be unlocked on the server side. It may be a good way but we won't able to use all features of the new version as it will available only for 1.12+ players and it will look so different for 1.8 (and lower than 1.12 version) like new blocks will be replaced with others and elytra which will look like leather chestplate. That's why it's a bad way to do that.

    Mineplex is currently working fine with 1.8 and I believe we should change nothing about it, so it will be fine the most of part of our community, just like we have it now. I do not really know but I believe most players are still playing on 1.8 as well as me.

    Mineplex as the most servers are stuck at 1.8 due to these problems which were expressed in the thread. It's not really servers' problems but Minecraft itself. This issue was upped a year ago after on Minecraft Feedback site suggestion about legacy PVP appeared and it got a lot of votings. Recently, rumours began to circulate that in the next version (1.15) new combat system is going to be added but there wasn't any official announcement about it. So, we can just hope that it will be true as it's the only way for all mini-games servers which are still on 1.8 to switch away from it.

    Overall, I'll give -0.5 for this idea.
    Posted Jun 16, 2019

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