Why I quit champions (and no longer find it fun)

Same lmao I play way more SSM now since at least there aren't parties win farming there. Champions is literally just "get a party of sweats and win-farm all day" now lol.

 

Champions GI is a great, and I think what they're doing for the game is great. But something seriously needs to be done about party win-farming, as it has ruined the game for many people. I saw a solution of randomizing the teams, maybe that could work? Or possibly balancing the stats based off of stats could work to.

 

Parties are definitely not the only reason why games die, and it's definitely not the sole reason champions died. But party win-farming are without a doubt a big factor in why new players/older players would quit playing, as it basically makes it impossible to compete without a party of your own. I saw someone call champions a "player vs party" game, as that's what it feels like to most players.

 

What I was trying to say is that people blame parties for letting the game die I know that if the game gets a proper balance update it won’t be a problem as it is rn

 

Not keen on randomizing teams since I think it would do more harm than help. While sweats partied up might be difficult to deal with, preventing people from queuing together altogether makes life more difficult for weaker players who are trying to play together. If people want to play with their friends, then they should be able to do so. It's also worth noting that people would still queue together using team selectors before parties automatically queued all members together, so we'd have to take extra steps to actually prevent people doing this if we chose to go that route. Also, randomized doesn't necessarily mean balanced or fair.

Balancing teams based off of stats is something that gets brought up pretty frequently and it's a little more difficult than it sounds, since you have to decide which stats are actually important. Counting stats like total wins are more or less useless for that purpose since alts exist and having a lot of wins or kills doesn't mean you're a good player. Specific stats such as KDR don't necessarily tell the full story either.

I think if we were to implement a matchmaking sort of thing, we'd probably use average experience earned per game within the past month, as it gives a nice roundup of whether a player gets kills, plays the objective, and wins games. We are planning on changing the rewards a bit for whenever the game gets updated, so I think that could end up being a decent way to matchmake. Unfortunately, I think it's unlikely that matchmaking like that will ever make it into the game given the complexity and...well frankly it's not going to be all that useful without a significantly higher playercount. It is certainly something I'd like to see happen, I just don't see it happening.

I do think the best bet is to focus on making sure the next update is good balance-wise and that we can get the numerous bugs and highly abusable stuff out of the game. Things like having a comprehensive tutorial for newcomers, preventing players from getting trapped and killed in their own spawn, balancing the game so that running 5 Assassins or 5 Longshot Rangers isn't a viable strategy, hopefully these will help address the bulk of this issue.

 

lol

 

As a solo quer I agree with the op wholeheartedly

Play in parties you‘ll get it easy.

Play a couple games alone and you’ll enter hell.

 

Just combo them