If SSM maps with caves are going to remain on the server, please consider patching up the caves. I've already seen a thread about Ardan Forest a couple months back, but I have the same issue with Alpine Ruins and Wasted Lands. The thing about these caves is that it provides an advantage to certain kits such as chicken and magma, two very mobile classes. I understand that "run and regen" will be an issue no matter what map, since it's a personal playstyle, but caves, especially those that open up to areas you cannot reach on land, provide an escape for these kits and make it impossible to win. I always hear that running and regenning is not game stalling because it's a playstyle, but I'm going to have to disagree. If I have been chasing someone for 10+ minutes because they are able to abuse these maps, that is game stalling. They aren't willing to fight. Their intention is to run until we starve or quit the game, and this should be punishable especially because this problem is not possible to solve other than to change the maps or change the kit abilities, which I doubt will happen. So please, either remove/revamp these maps or improve kits.