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Skeleton Horse is probably the most broken kit.

Discussion in 'Super Smash Mobs' started by Tranquil1ty, Jun 5, 2020.

  1. This is the 69420th time it's been mentioned....
     
    Posted Jun 21, 2020
  2. Well you can just triple jump over the bone rush then super squid through the kick
     
    Posted Jun 21, 2020
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  3. You can’t triple if they use it to punish your landing.
     
    Posted Jun 21, 2020
  4. And then they will bone rush you into their deadly bones which do around 1-2 hearts per bone And then rekick you if you even try to counter attack... And on top of that every successful hit you land will dig your grave as that is another bone to get smashed into after the now 5-6 second recharge is done as the CD starts on use and not after
     
    Posted Jun 21, 2020,
    Last edited Jun 21, 2020
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  5. I entirely agree with your point as we all know Blaze is easily 2nd most annoying kit in the entire pvp section of Mineplex with armor shredding inferno and nearly invulnerable firefly. But the reason it is the 2nd biggest pain to fight is the firefly's recharge speed. Similar to bone rush you can run for a few seconds and then spam your abilities so hard that you can have 1/2 a hand and 1 brain cell and yet still obliterate players whom grind hard lobbies with 1k+ wins with ease OR recover if hit off even after the abilities were baited or used unless it is a water map. And better yet because of the kb from every ability melee is usually only and option in the 3.5 second(average 1.5 second reaction time after ur screen shaking and being knocked around) opening you receive between attacks.(Not including recovery or death by void) In which as well as noted you will be slammed even harder than the first 6 heart combo with the deadly bones and the player's already lowered health. Abilities of yours may also be exhausted by slower more balanced recharges or using them on the running skorse.
     
    Posted Jun 21, 2020
  6. You can if you bait the bone rush first, if they bone kick you when you land just super squid to recover.
     
    Posted Jun 21, 2020
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  7. This isn’t true that it doesn’t real much damage, horse can melee through the bone rush which the combo of this can kill in one bone rush from 10 hearts if executed correctly. I will say tho that when I’m not using spider, wolf is a much bigger annoyance in most lobbies.
     
    Posted Jun 21, 2020
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  8. You shouldn’t have to bait out an ability, and use your recovery just to approach. And with bone rushes relativity short CD you have a small window of time to inflict damage. However, fighting most bone horses is pretty easy, as they typically don’t know how to left click.
     
    Posted Jun 21, 2020

  9. With most kits, the recovery is the best approach option. Batwave acts as a shield, blink can teleport you to your opponent, flame dash, and firefly both deal damage as you approach. And baiting is just part of the game, nothing you can do about that.
     
    Posted Jun 26, 2020
  10. i agree horrible class that horrible people use
     
    Posted Jun 27, 2020
  11. I don't even understand why this is a subject of debate. Anyone with multiple brain cells can use Bone Horse and expect reasonable results.

    Deadly bones needs to be removed.
    The bones on Bone Rush need to despawn sooner (using it force people off cliffs and cancelling their recovery/double jump is fairly common)

    I think those two changes would keep the low skill floor of the kit and allow less skilled players to not get annihilated, but make the kit less of a pain to fight.
     
    Posted Jun 29, 2020
  12. Bone pony will require conscious thought to use most effectively now -G.I. doc statement. It sounds very promising so let's wait for that.
     
    Posted Jun 30, 2020
  13. it's just a game dude, I would not go as far as to call them horrible people
     
    Posted Jun 30, 2020
  14. Skeletal horse main personality traits:

    Lazy, always wants to take the easy way out. Prefers to sit around rather than working.
     
    Posted Jun 30, 2020
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  15. once again, work on your sense of humor
     
    Posted Jul 1, 2020
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  16. OK so I feel like I have to edit most of this so that someone doesn't get triggered by it

    I go into a game and there's some skelly horse one trick. I'm trying to kill it and all this guy will ever do is run or camp or hide in back of walls. You literally can't play offensively against a player like this because you literally can't. You have to hit and run every time, otherwise you will just be slammed off an island or have half or more of your life ripped out of you because bone rush + bone kick. And then the horse goes back behind the wall. And you can't regen either, because the horse will also. So you have to jump in and attack, again. But the horse is still hiding. And this time, it dodges and you don't get away in time. And you certainly can't play defensively either because this guy will literally never go after you unless you're already fighting someone else. So basically, horse rewards people heavily for camping. I feel like much of the playerbase would have a hard time fighting a horse that does this. Compared to campers using other kits, horse seems like the worst one to deal with. And it's not like the horse is even trying to win either. It can just get effortless kills by mostly standing still. Even if it doesn't play like this, most other players would still get rekt by it. Horse has such a low skill cap. They can master horse and get very good results with it when other people are struggling to learn a kit that actually takes skill. If you still think that this is fair, then you're part of the problem.
     
    Posted Jul 4, 2020,
    Last edited Jul 22, 2020
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  17. Nah, You're just not playin squid right man. Horse has zero range besides what little it gains with bone rush, and thats the ability you want to bait out.
    You got ink shotgun, fish flurry, and super squid. If horse bone rushes, you rush through it, if he hasn't used kick, then go near him and immediately vear off to bait it out. If he holds bone rush then hold super squid and keep shotgunning to find combos where he can't use kick. If all of them fail, use fish flurry and escape. Shotguns cooldown is shorter then his abilities, so you can play around it when you have nothing up.

    When abilities fail skeleton horse, since you are smaller and have a good combo setting move (ink shotgun) you will more often then not win the melee trade unless your opponent is just massively more skilled in regular pvp.
    Tons of ways to outplay.
     
    Posted Jul 19, 2020
    Wildbrandon likes this.
  18. I, too, dislike skeleton horse but I honestly don't see how you could lose to a skeleton horse while you were squid. Sounds like a player issue
     
    Posted Jul 19, 2020
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  19. skeleton horse appears as a fox and its hitbox is shaped like a fox, making it more op than wolf. Im not playing lower than 1.14.4 because ive adapted to mouse changes that happened in that update.
     
    Posted Jul 20, 2020
  20. Yeah, I have such a player issue. I can't beat one horse out of hundreds. Smh -_-

    I don't feel like explaining what happened again so I won't. But I can beat most horses, it's just that that one time was a shot of bad luck and losing my patience.

    But blaming this on my "player issue" does not make horse any less OP.

    I am an above average squid player and while I could improve some, I'm not going to sweat for hours every day just so I can beat one annoying camper. I bet you would also be insufficient to kill this specific horse, even if you did use squid. The fact that people tend to blame many things on player skill or issues annoys me especially when many other people have acknowledged the fact that horse is too OP. Many average players can't beat an average horse even if they use one of its "counters."

    I guess that most of the SSM community has "player issues" then.
     
    Posted Jul 20, 2020,
    Last edited Jul 20, 2020

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