I am not trying to get anybody "in trouble" just because I disagree with you, doesn't mean I hate you, or anybody in the pub-stomping, sub-community of Champions. I wasn't referring to anybody specifically when I talked about insulting Paladise, more the Champions community as a whole, which seems to like insulting him. The ideas which I'm guessing you are referring to are the tutorials, which you stated on the previous thread. I'm not in opposition of these ideas, but I don't understand how Paladise's ideas only cater to certain people in the Champions community. I believe the reason Paladise posted his ideas here additionally to the GI discord, is so more people can see it. Not everybody is in the GI discord, so he simply wants to share his ideas with more people, even if it was met with opposition elsewhere. I of course can't confirm this, you will need to ask Paladise yourself, for his answer, but knowing him this seems like the most logical explanation for why he would have done this. The reason I told Rammen to not advertise his MPS in CTF1 isn't as black and white as you make it out to be. The reason I didn't want Rammen advertising his MPS in CTF1 was that I don't want to get into the habit of using MPS's a our main way of playing CTF. The reason for this is that, I think CTF has a worse chance at being revived, if the players mainly play in MPS's as new players won't look there to play, meaning that CTF will likely get few new players, which will of course hurt the game. We came to an agreement that Rammen could advertise in the CTF1 chat, as long as this wasn't something that would be done often. I don't really see how playing in an MPS is an "excellent way to bring people to the game or to learn more about the game" as you put it, its seems counter-productive of CTF1's goal. As both me and Paladise have stated many times, we don't like pub-stomping because we believe it scares away newcomers, preventing the game from having a sizable playerbase. I don't really know much about the whole wowOK controversy, so I will let Paladise address that. As I stated earlier, nobody said anything about you, and I have seen no examples of you being slandered by anybody. You are not treated as lesser either, nobody ever said what you are doing is wrong, we just don't agree with it. And I can sure you, all staff have joined CTF1 willingly, and they have not been "lured" in. If you have more to say, I suggest you say it. As long as you are respectful and mature about how you present it, I doubt you would be muted on the forums. Unless you share this information, I have no reason to believe it even exists. I promise you, we don't hate you, or anybody in the Champions community. We all like the game, and are just sharing what we think is best for it. Even if we have different opinions on what the future of the game should look like, it doesn't mean we hate it. Please understand that the purpose of CTF1 is to help revive CTF, and make it a popular game mode again, we only want what's best, and we are trying to do everything we can to make it the best it can be.