Alright so lots of posts have gone by and I don’t feel like quoting each one, so I’ll just talk about what many of these posts are discussing. Achievements The only achievement you need to rely on others for is floor is lava, otherwise you can get them on your own. Slowness Let me go back to what I said when I started this thread. As a heavy frosting user myself, even I’ll admit that the snowballs are overpowered. Frosting is an achievement kit, so it deserves to be strong, but right now it’s too strong. I didn’t say the future frosting nerfs were not needed, I said they were too much, meaning something in between what frosting is now and what it would be without the slowness. I mentioned reducing the effect and duration of the slowness, which would honestly balance it out. Or like others have said, increasing the quantity of the snowballs if the slowness effect were removed completely. I can’t deny that frosting is overpowered at the moment, but the planned nerfs are too much. Again, I feel that reducing the effect and duration of the slowness instead of removing it completely, or remove the slowness but increasing the quantity of snowballs would balance the kit while still keeping it strong.